Operation Be: The Podcast
You have a picture in your head of what your life can BE for a reason, and sometimes balancing it all does feel impossible. Join your host Jamie Thurber as she takes you along her continued journey of intentionally creating a grounded lifestyle. She visits topics including learning that rest is actually NOT lazy, growing your business in a way that doesn’t take over your life, creating relationships that are supportive, reducing chaos overall, embracing sustainable habits, and more. Jamie Thurber, Expert Operations Manager & Productivity Queen turned Mindset, Business, and Lifestyle Coach, spent years focused on what she could DO to design her life on her terms. Through challenging personal experiences, mindset & habit shifts, and a whole-body health transformation, she has spent the last few years accepting that BEING present in her life is actually more important than all of the things she was doing.
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Let’s clear something up…
You’re not overwhelmed.You’re overextended.
In this episode of Operation Be, I’m breaking down the difference, and why it matters more than you think.
Because what feels like anxiety…chaos…even excitement sometimes?Is often just you trying to do more than your time and capacity can actually hold.
We’re getting into how to spot overextension before it turns into burnout, why slowing down is the fastest way to get back in control, and the real reason your schedule feels impossible (hint: you’re not accounting for life in between).
Trust me…getting back on track doesn’t happen overnight.It happens when you recalibrate with intention.
🎧 Tune in now and learn how to stop spinning…and start moving forward again.
00:45 Overwhelm vs Overextended
02:05 Anxiety or Excitement Check
04:07 Robot Coaching and Reality
04:58 Build Capacity and Boundaries
06:28 Time Blocking and Drive Time
10:14 Saying No and Limits
13:56 Disruptions and Three Anchors
17:15 Wrap Up and Support
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The Operation BE show is proudly brought to you by:
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Located at 12957 Gravois Road in Sunset Hills.
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Supported by Trueline Media Group
Located at 1523 Fenpark Drive in Fenton. We are your one stop for all show needs.
Visit www.truelinemediagroup.com to learn more.
Tuesday Apr 28, 2026
Tuesday Apr 28, 2026
Let’s talk about something that doesn’t get named enough…but affects everything:
Emotional load.
And no, it’s not just “being emotional.”
In this episode of Operation Be, I’m breaking down what emotional load actually looks like in real life: the constant mental tabs, the anticipating, the remembering, the invisible weight that so many people (especially women) carry every single day.
From my own marriage to business partnerships, I’ve seen how this shows up: 👉🏻 one person becomes the default manager 👉🏻 resentment builds 👉🏻 burnout creeps in 👉🏻 and communication starts to break down
But here’s the shift:
There’s a difference between noticing what needs to be done and taking responsibility for everyone else’s feelings, reactions, and outcomes.
Because support doesn’t mean doing everything. And love doesn’t mean losing yourself in the process.
🎧 Tune in now for a conversation that might just change how you show up in your relationships, your work, and your own mind.
00:57 What Emotional Load Means
01:56 Why It Hits Relationships
04:12 Invisible Household Work
07:04 When Work Has Load Too
08:37 Stop Parenting Your Partner
11:29 Defining Emotional Load
12:42 Managing Others Feelings
15:43 Why It Matters
17:19 Balance Without Taking Over
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Join my community and let’s take this conversation even deeper! Operation Be: The Podcast is where I teach personalized lessons on intentional living & creating a lifestyle by design.
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The Operation BE show is proudly brought to you by:
Premium Kitchen and Bath
Located at 1666 Larkin Williams Road in Fenton.
https://premiumkb.com/cabinet-wholesaler/
https://www.facebook.com/premiumkbstl
https://www.instagram.com/premiumkbstl/
And
Spas & More STL
Located at 12957 Gravois Road in Sunset Hills.
Stop by their showroom to try any of their Master Spas products!
http://www.spasandmorestl.com
https://www.facebook.com/SpasandMore
https://www.instagram.com/spasandmorestl/
Supported by Trueline Media Group
Located at 1523 Fenpark Drive in Fenton. We are your one stop for all show needs.
Visit www.truelinemediagroup.com to learn more.
Tuesday Apr 21, 2026
Tuesday Apr 21, 2026
Let’s talk about something that looks like support…but often creates more stress.
In this episode of Operation Be, I’m unpacking a dynamic I’ve experienced too often: sharing that I’m overwhelmed, only to have people start deciding for me what I can and can’t handle.
Information gets withheld. Tasks get delayed. People try to “protect” my time…without asking.
And that’s not support. That’s misalignment.
I’m talking about why this creates confusion, missed deadlines, and unnecessary emotional labor (especially for women in leadership) and the difference between asking for help and simply being transparent.
We’ll get into what real support actually looks like: clear roles, honest communication, and truth shared with respect.
Because honesty isn’t being harsh.And avoiding truth doesn’t help anyone move forward.
🎧 Tune in now for a conversation about trust, communication, and what support should actually look like.
01:11 Emotions and Conditioning
01:53 Learning to Ask for Help
02:35 When Others Budget Your Energy
05:07 Transparency Is Real Support
06:53 A Meeting Story and the Cost
07:58 Clear Roles and Communication
08:40 Honesty Without Being Harsh
Email me!
me@jamiethurber.com
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Join my community and let’s take this conversation even deeper! Operation Be: The Podcast is where I teach personalized lessons on intentional living & creating a lifestyle by design.
www.operationbe.com
The Operation BE show is proudly brought to you by:
Premium Kitchen and Bath
Located at 1666 Larkin Williams Road in Fenton.
https://premiumkb.com/cabinet-wholesaler/
https://www.facebook.com/premiumkbstl
https://www.instagram.com/premiumkbstl/
And
Spas & More STL
Located at 12957 Gravois Road in Sunset Hills.
Stop by their showroom to try any of their Master Spas products!
http://www.spasandmorestl.com
https://www.facebook.com/SpasandMore
https://www.instagram.com/spasandmorestl/
Supported by Trueline Media Group
Located at 1523 Fenpark Drive in Fenton. We are your one stop for all show needs.
Visit www.truelinemediagroup.com to learn more.
Tuesday Apr 07, 2026
Tuesday Apr 07, 2026
If you’ve ever been told to “pick one thing” or “niche down,” this episode is for you.
In this episode, I open up about being labeled a “serial entrepreneur” and the pressure that comes with it. After investing in a $10,000 program that pushed me into a business model that didn’t fit, I realized something important:
✨ The problem wasn’t my ambition.✨ The problem was when I stopped trusting myself.
I share why being multi-passionate doesn’t mean you’re scattered—the common denominator in everything you build is you. And when you’re grounded in clarity, building multiple things can actually be your strength.
We’ll talk about:
Why niching down isn’t always the answer
The difference between distraction and intentional growth
Why structure and support matter more than discipline
If you’ve been questioning your path, consider this your reminder:You’re not too much—you’re just not meant to build small.
🎙️Catch this episode today, and share it with someone who you think needs to hear this message too!
00:26 Serial Entrepreneur Debate
01:31 Niche Down Wounds
03:21 Built to Build Mindset
04:41 Common Denominator: You
08:08 Labels and Identity
10:22 Clarity and Integrity
14:18 Discernment Over Discipline
15:13 Pause Before You Decide
17:37 Not Everything at Once
20:12 Structure Support Sustainability
23:40 Steward Your Gifts
Mentioned in this episode:
https://adventure-unknown.com/
Operation Be Episode w/ Emily Frisella
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The Operation BE show is proudly brought to you by:
Premium Kitchen and Bath
Located at 1666 Larkin WIlliams Road in Fenton.
https://premiumkb.com/cabinet-wholesaler/
https://www.facebook.com/premiumkbstl
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And
Spas & More STL
Located at 12957 Gravois Road in Sunset Hills.
Stop by their showroom to try any of their Master Spas products!
http://www.spasandmorestl.com
https://www.facebook.com/SpasandMore
https://www.instagram.com/spasandmorestl/
Supported by Trueline Media Group
Located at 1523 Fenpark Drive in Fenton. We are your one stop for all show needs.
Visit www.truelinemediagroup.com to learn more.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2026
Tuesday Mar 24, 2026
In this episode of Operation Be, I sit down with Emily Frisella — entrepreneur, best-selling author, COO of Arete Syndicate and 44Seven Media, and founder of Paper & Plan Co. and Women in Business.
Emily is known for her no-BS, real-world approach to leadership, and this conversation delivers exactly that.
We dive into what it actually looks like to run multiple businesses without rigid routines, and why the “perfect morning routine” advice you see online doesn’t work for most entrepreneurs. Emily shares her glass balls vs. rubber balls framework — a powerful way to prioritize what truly matters and let go of unnecessary guilt.
We also talk about:
✨Why most productivity advice is unrealistic✨Building trust through transparency (not transactions)✨Leading teams with clarity and communication✨Creating culture without drama✨And how to grow a business while staying aligned with your values
This episode is practical, honest, and packed with perspective shifts — especially if you’re building something and trying to do it in a way that actually works for your life.
🎧 Press play if you’re ready to lead, grow, and simplify how you approach success.
00:25 Meet Emily Frisella
01:39 Rethinking Daily Structure
04:41 Glass vs Rubber Balls
06:02 Rejecting Hustle Advice
09:34 Honest Selling and Trust
13:26 Books and Core Values
17:58 Myth of Long Plans
20:11 Social Media Reality Shift
30:07 Team Structure Breakdown
31:27 Delegation and Deadlines
32:36 Overcommunicate the Why
35:26 Women in Business Workshop
40:48 Launching the Academy
48:19 Work Life Blend Mindset
56:22 Staying Grounded Systems
Connect with Emily:
https://www.instagram.com/emilyfrisella/
https://emilyfrisella.com/
Please like, comment, subscribe, and share this episode and tag us with @jamie.thurber on Instagram or Jamie Thurber on Facebook. #OperationBe
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Join my community and let’s take this conversation even deeper! Operation Be: The Podcast is where I teach personalized lessons on intentional living & creating a lifestyle by design.
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The Operation BE show is proudly brought to you by:
Premium Kitchen and Bath
Located at 1666 Larkin WIlliams Road in Fenton.
https://premiumkb.com/cabinet-wholesaler/
https://www.facebook.com/premiumkbstl
https://www.instagram.com/premiumkbstl/
And
Spas & More STL
Located at 12957 Gravois Road in Sunset Hills.
Stop by their showroom to try any of their Master Spas products!
http://www.spasandmorestl.com
https://www.facebook.com/SpasandMore
https://www.instagram.com/spasandmorestl/
Supported by Trueline Media Group
Located at 1523 Fenpark Drive in Fenton. We are your one stop for all show needs.
Visit www.truelinemediagroup.com to learn more.
Tuesday Mar 10, 2026
Tuesday Mar 10, 2026
This last week was…wild.
In this episode of Operation Be, I’m sharing what happens when multiple chaotic moments stack on top of each other — and how those moments revealed something important: peace doesn’t come from perfect circumstances. It comes from self-trust.
When you build integrity with yourself — keeping small promises, speaking honestly, owning mistakes, asking questions, and following through — something powerful happens. You stop second-guessing. You move with clarity. You respond instead of react.
I talk about why hard weeks don’t erase your progress, how not everything deserves your emotional energy, and why calm, strategic responses strengthen both your boundaries and your leadership. Especially when work dynamics get messy.
Plans change. Life pivots. Chaos happens.
But the one thing you can always control is how you show up and how you respond.
That’s where real confidence is built.
🎧 Press play and let’s talk about staying grounded when life gets loud.
00:35 Last Week Was Wild
02:16 Peace Comes From Self Trust
04:03 Integrity And Follow Through
06:41 Messy Growth Seasons
08:13 Choose Your Reactions
08:57 Leadership Under Pressure
11:22 Strength In Silence
13:43 Flexibility When Plans Change
16:24 Closing Message And Reminder
Please like, comment, subscribe, and share this episode and tag us with @jamie.thurber on Instagram or Jamie Thurber on Facebook. #OperationBe
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The Operation BE show is proudly brought to you by:
Premium Kitchen and Bath
Located at 1666 Larkin WIlliams Road in Fenton.
https://premiumkb.com/cabinet-wholesaler/
https://www.facebook.com/premiumkbstl
https://www.instagram.com/premiumkbstl/
And
Spas & More STL
Located at 12957 Gravois Road in Sunset Hills.
Stop by their showroom to try any of their Master Spas products!
http://www.spasandmorestl.com
https://www.facebook.com/SpasandMore
https://www.instagram.com/spasandmorestl/
Supported by Trueline Media Group
Located at 1523 Fenpark Drive in Fenton. We are your one stop for all show needs.
Visit www.truelinemediagroup.com to learn more.
Tuesday Mar 03, 2026
Tuesday Mar 03, 2026
This episode wasn’t supposed to go this way.
I had a plan. I was ready to talk about reinvention.
And then a simple phone call about a truck recall tipped the scale.
In real time, I felt the overwhelm hit — not because of the truck, but because of everything else. The invisible mental load of running businesses. The constant tabs open in my brain. The 1099s, staffing, client work, long commutes, family logistics. The weight that doesn’t clock out at 5pm.
In this episode of Operation Be, I unpack what it actually feels like to carry that load — especially when your partner hasn’t owned a company and may not fully understand the cognitive strain. We talk about how gender defaults still quietly show up in daily responsibilities, what happens when you admit you’re drowning and don’t feel heard, and why expecting superhuman output is a losing game.
I also share practical strategies that genuinely help — voice reminders, labeled alarms, systems that reduce decision fatigue — and how reframing pressure as privilege can shift your perspective without dismissing your reality.
This one is honest. Messy. Real-time.
Because growth isn’t polished — it’s practiced.
🎧 Press play if you’ve ever felt like your brain has 47 tabs open and none of them will close.
00:31 Reinvention Plan Derailed
01:24 Truck Trouble Real Life
02:57 Business Load In Relationships
05:47 Not Being Heard
07:46 Behind And Overwhelmed
12:20 Pressure Versus Privilege
15:27 Choosing The Podcast First
17:06 Using Reminders And Robots
20:03 Wrap Up And Sponsors
Please like, comment, subscribe, and share this episode and tag us with @jamie.thurber on Instagram or Jamie Thurber on Facebook. #OperationBe
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Join my community and let’s take this conversation even deeper! Operation Be: The Podcast is where I teach personalized lessons on intentional living & creating a lifestyle by design.
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The Operation BE show is proudly brought to you by:
Premium Kitchen and Bath
Located at 1666 Larkin WIlliams Road in Fenton.
https://premiumkb.com/cabinet-wholesaler/
https://www.facebook.com/premiumkbstl
https://www.instagram.com/premiumkbstl/
And
Spas & More STL
Located at 12957 Gravois Road in Sunset Hills.
Stop by their showroom to try any of their Master Spas products!
http://www.spasandmorestl.com
https://www.facebook.com/SpasandMore
https://www.instagram.com/spasandmorestl/
Supported by Trueline Media Group
Located at 1523 Fenpark Drive in Fenton. We are your one stop for all show needs.
Visit www.truelinemediagroup.com to learn more.
Tuesday Feb 24, 2026
Tuesday Feb 24, 2026
This episode is about the part of growth we don’t talk about enough — the loneliness.
Living with intention, clarity, and alignment is powerful…but it can also feel isolating. It’s hard to put new internal experiences into words. It’s draining to constantly update or over-explain who you’re becoming. And sometimes the people closest to you can’t fully meet the version of you that’s emerging.
In this conversation, I share what I’ve learned through physical, emotional, and mental healing — releasing guilt around not staying in constant contact, grieving old versions of myself and relationships built on obligation, and allowing emotions like grief and anger without needing others to relate.
We talk about:
✨Where you shrink to keep others comfortable✨What emotional safety really means✨Letting go of opinions when you’re not harming anyone✨And why growth often requires hard conversations
If you’ve felt alone in your evolution, you’re not crazy. You’re growing.
And emotional safety matters more than we admit.
🎧 Press play. Let’s go there.
00:39 Why Growth Matters (and Why It Can Feel Lonely)
02:18 Healing, Surrendering Control, and Protecting Your Energy
04:41 Letting Go of Obligation: Friends, Family, and Space to Grow
05:54 Grief, Hard Conversations, and Outgrowing Old Versions
08:10 Stop Shrinking: Shine, Set Boundaries, and Correct Yourself
10:35 Find Emotional Safety: Safe People, Vulnerability, and Being Seen
11:37 Ignore Opinions When You’re Not Hurting Anyone
14:11 Key Takeaways
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Join my community and let’s take this conversation even deeper! Operation Be: The Podcast is where I teach personalized lessons on intentional living & creating a lifestyle by design.
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The Operation BE show is proudly brought to you by:
Premium Kitchen and Bath
Located at 1666 Larkin Williams Road in Fenton.
https://premiumkb.com/cabinet-wholesaler/
https://www.facebook.com/premiumkbstl
https://www.instagram.com/premiumkbstl/
And
Spas & More STL
Located at 12957 Gravois Road in Sunset Hills.
Stop by their showroom to try any of their Master Spas products!
http://www.spasandmorestl.com
https://www.facebook.com/SpasandMore
https://www.instagram.com/spasandmorestl/
Supported by Trueline Media Group
Located at 1523 Fenpark Drive in Fenton. We are your one stop for all show needs.
Visit www.truelinemediagroup.com to learn more.
Tuesday Feb 17, 2026
Tuesday Feb 17, 2026
I’m back — and January was a wild one.
In this episode of Operation Be, I’m sharing what really happened behind the scenes: my mom’s knee replacement, getting Influenza A, both of my parents becoming seriously ill, hospital stays, rehab, endless tests, and navigating the stress of healthcare and family updates — all while running three companies.
But this isn’t just about what happened. It’s about what it revealed.
Years ago, this level of uncertainty would have sent me into panic, overwork, and burnout. This time, I practiced presence. I triaged what mattered. I listened to my body. I allowed emotions without spiraling.
We talk about nervous system regulation in real time, breaking old hypervigilant patterns, and how growth is revealed in chaos — not comfort.
If you’re navigating stress, caregiving, or uncertainty, this conversation will meet you where you are.
🎧 Press play. Let’s walk through it together.
00:30 Unexpected Break + Why January 2026 Felt So Wild
02:05 Twists and Turns
04:32 When Everything Snowballed
07:00 Running 3 Companies While Life Implodes (and Finally Getting Help)
09:02 The Real Lesson: Emotions, Standards, and Not Burning Yourself Out
11:13 Nervous System Regulation Tools
13:10 Hypervigilance, Surrender, and Listening to Your Body
17:27 What Practice Looks Like Now: Boundaries, Cues, and Daily Regulation
20:14 Wrap-Up, How to Reach Me + New Show Sponsors
22:49 Sponsor Spotlight: Spas and More (Master Spas for Wellness)
Mentioned in this episode:
Why We Practice: A Journey of Self Reflection & Growth | Ep 82: https://youtu.be/DaJkR9MiSmo
Trueline Kitchen Video: https://youtu.be/hUYFYQVl32k?si=If1XFG302NX1n1pU
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Join my community and let’s take this conversation even deeper! Operation Be: The Podcast is where I teach personalized lessons on intentional living & creating a lifestyle by design.
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The Operation BE show is proudly brought to you by:
Premium Kitchen and Bath
Located at 1666 Larkin WIlliams Road in Fenton.
https://premiumkb.com/cabinet-wholesaler/
https://www.facebook.com/premiumkbstl
https://www.instagram.com/premiumkbstl/
And
Spas & More STL
Located at 12957 Gravois Road in Sunset Hills.
Stop by their showroom to try any of their Master Spas products!
http://www.spasandmorestl.com
https://www.facebook.com/SpasandMore
https://www.instagram.com/spasandmorestl/
Supported by Trueline Media Group
Located at 1523 Fenpark Drive in Fenton. We are your one stop for all show needs.
Visit www.truelinemediagroup.com to learn more.
Tuesday Jan 06, 2026
Tuesday Jan 06, 2026
In this episode of Operation Be, I sit down with Pat Doyle for an honest, grounded conversation about growth, fatherhood, and what it really means to show up as a man today. Pat’s journey—from professional baseball to mortgage lending, podcasting, and parenting—has been shaped by real-life experiences that forced him to slow down, reflect, and evolve.
We talk openly about mental health, emotional intelligence, and the responsibility that comes with being a present father and a self-aware leader. Pat shares how navigating divorce changed the way he approaches parenting, personal accountability, and his own inner work—and why choosing growth over ego has mattered more than anything.
This episode is about aligning purpose with practice, learning from life instead of running from it, and understanding that clarity doesn’t come from having all the answers—it comes from being willing to look inward.
Whether you’re a parent, a professional, or someone committed to doing the work to live with more intention, this conversation offers perspective, honesty, and a reminder that growth is always available when you choose it.
🎧Check it out today!
01:53 The Zach and Pat Show
03:21 Fatherhood and Personal Growth
06:00 Navigating Divorce and Co-Parenting
08:58 Relationships and Emotional Intelligence
20:44 The Importance of Vulnerability
28:22 Using Social Media for Business and Personal Growth
31:30 The Identity Crisis for Men
32:06 Comfort in Solitude
32:50 Promoting Positive Masculinity
34:11 The Impact of Toxic Labels
35:32 The Importance of Listening
37:02 Building Community and Values
44:20 Rapid Fire Questions
Connect with Pat:
https://www.youtube.com/@TheZachandPatShow
https://www.instagram.com/stl_mortgagenerd/
https://www.instagram.com/thezachandpatshow/
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